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shy scorpios

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Who thinks of themselves a shy.

I know it's not the most scorpionic trait, but I have have always been shy and or reserved. Maybe it my Scorpio Sun, moon, venus squaring my Aquarius Ascendant, or perhaps my saturn in cancer in the 5 the house......
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  • Re: shy scorpios

    Thu, July 21, 2005 - 7:57 AM
    Reserved is a much better word. I am always reserved, until you (the new person I'm with) become worthy of my trust and respect. Then I open up and the fun begins.

    It's the "inner circle" thing, Fokker. Once you're out of the circle, it's not easy to get back in.
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Thu, July 21, 2005 - 9:54 AM
      Same here, not so much shy..as reserved. I like to take in my surroundings before I decide to be open with people. I attribute this to my cancer moon that floods me with impressions and emotions from others the moment I am in their prescence. So large groups and new people tend to overwhelm me. I need a moment to get over that rush first before I can communicate.
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Thu, July 21, 2005 - 11:48 AM
        Yep I definitely fal into the reserved/introverted category rather than shy. I don't think anyone who actually knows me would call me shy
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          Thu, July 21, 2005 - 12:19 PM
          Yep, definitely reserved over shy! I used to tell people that I was shy, and anyone who even just slightly knew me would just start laughing hysterically. Now, when it comes up in conversation, I tell people I'm reserved and most tend to agree.
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Fri, May 12, 2006 - 6:53 PM
          Actually I'm shy.... but then when its time I can be very open, especially when I have to play music. But I am a shy Cat..... as well as reserved....

          Among close friends and in certain situations I am very open and revealing, and, yes, I so love the mysteries with a psychic intuition that sometimes haugnts me.... passionate and deep..... for myself, I feel that "love" is the deepest gift we have and to stay loving and forgiving we will overcome any dark side we have, and rise up out of the ashes embracing the Phoenix within...

          I really do have to work on not being so shy though.... really....

          om to love
          xox
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      Re: shy scorpios

      Sat, March 11, 2006 - 11:23 AM
      I'm mostly reserved and observant, but can be shy at times when it appears I am the centre of attention.

      Red
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Thu, July 21, 2005 - 1:22 PM
    Totally shy. In my younger days I was unhealthy introverted and shy. I know, really not much like a scorpio and I have 5 in my chart. But that's life... No idea what in my charts could point to that but there is that whole nature vs nurture thing going on too.
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      Sat, July 23, 2005 - 2:43 AM
      Gatto Matto,
      I also have 5 planets in scorpio, sun, moon, venus in 9th house, Mars and mercury in the 8th. I don't know how it happened.... but I almost always reserved, occasionally timid, and often nonassertive. I have been aware of my need to assert myself more often, I just find it's easier to let people think they are walking all of me in some situations. When I am experiencing a great injustice, I will assert myself, but if it's a petty power game or something else that is not worthy of my energy I will usually let it slide. I have big issues with confrontation and prefer to flow around the obstacles...... from reading descriptions of Saturn in cancer in the 5th house, I think this aspect has a lot to do with my reluctance to assert myself.
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Sat, July 23, 2005 - 11:03 AM
        I do think of myself as shy -

        I know I am wrong -

        that makes me feel insecure -

        then I overcompensate & boldly make an aggressive move (usually *psychically* directed at someone's throat) -

        I scare everyone around -

        then I withdraw to meditate on why I'm so shy -

        repeat until exhausted -
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Mon, July 25, 2005 - 10:37 PM
        Assertive reluctance, that's a big part of my personality also. I can do it, and when I did in the past there was no backing down from it... Maybe that's why I adopted that trait. But I've been through the fire as someone put it recently, and things have changed. Still quite reluctant, but when I do assert and stand up, I'm more like a flowing river than a raging one. That is, there is a lot of power within and will be hard to divert but it's not a menacing power... Though I do find most matters that other people will tend to stand up for inconsequential so I'll seem really passive or weak. Hmmm... But isn't that the very definition of passive aggressive? ;-)
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Sat, July 23, 2005 - 5:21 PM
    Not a Scorpio myself, but have made Scorpio people the subject of a 30 year study. (Just because I like Scorpio's better than any other sign!)

    My college roommate was anything but shy. Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Rising...so Sun in the first house. He as like a Scorpio who put himself out front almost as much as a typical Leo.....wanted to be an actor more than anything. I remember the two of us outside the girls' dorm one night, serenading our respective ladies with quite suggestive songs until the came down from their rooms.

    Another good friend of mine, Scorpio Sun in the 8th house.... She was the quietest, most spiritual person I've ever met. Shy? Absolutely. Of course, having Pisces rising contributed to that shyness quite strongly.

    In my case files, I've seen all types of Scorpio people, of both sexes. Doesn't surprise me that Scorpio has more symbols than any other sign.....Scorpion. Snake. Eagle. Phoenix. There are more variations, extremes, between one Scorpio and the next, than any other zodiac sign.
    Well, if you have two rulers.....and one of them is the darkest planet, the one furthest away most of its orbit....while the other is the planet of fire, passion and assertiveness....it is easy to see how you could be following one much more than the other.
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Sat, July 23, 2005 - 5:30 PM
      i've never been shy.

      although i've always been on the extreme of respectfull... some might even say i'm not a great closer.

      for example, when i was a youngmaninlust i would take fahhhhhever to get to second base.

      course... now days i'm trying to bring that back... makes lovin' youngagainagain.
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      Re: shy scorpios

      Fri, May 12, 2006 - 11:14 PM
      Zane,
      "Another good friend of mine, Scorpio Sun in the 8th house.... She was the quietest, most spiritual person I've ever met. Shy? Absolutely. Of course, having Pisces rising contributed to that shyness quite strongly."

      - Sounds like someone id love to chat with?. She & I apparently share the same placements at least in terms of Sun in Scorpio in 8th house & Pisces Rising, and friends that actually know me well have described me the same way you described her. Though with people i know well, good friends & if i feel situation really need it I will just as well become mutable into spontaneously playful, off the wall humour which sometimes others get & sometimes the humour seems to remain between me & myself or assertiveness.
      Though generally from the outside, and toward the outside generally speaking, id say the tendancy of piscean receptivity, empathy, compassion & sensitivity come across more apparently in many encounters, initially anyway.
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    Re: shy scorpios

    Wed, July 27, 2005 - 7:45 AM
    Yes, uncomfortable shy especially in large crowds, unless I am drunk.
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    Fri, July 29, 2005 - 9:48 PM
    I am very shy, and sexually reserved, unless I am drunk,stoned or know you very well.
    Especially with men.
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Sat, July 30, 2005 - 1:26 AM
    as a scorpio/sag cusp with an aquarius rising, my scorpio shy/quiet/reserved self emerges when i am feeling intimidated -- even if i'm only imagining it. I clam right up.
    issac, i definitely think your saturn in cancer reveals the answer to your question. saturn, the returning purpose planet in another powerful water sign related to shyness?. your big lesson?? if you can bust through it, perhaps the lesson you incarnated to learn (and promptly forgot for 28 years) will be complete.....who knows?? go go go! you can do it!

    (hmmm... think my saturn - in gemini) is in my 5th house too? i gotta look now)
    peas
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Fri, March 10, 2006 - 3:24 PM
    It depends on the aspects of all your planets. In my case I am very shy but it has a lot to do with my dominant saturn. Study your birthchart, it will explain why you are the way you are. And you will find that we are like onions, you can peel off one skin and then the next, eventually, deep within you, lies an eagle waiting to fly.
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Fri, March 10, 2006 - 4:25 PM
      ugh I can be pretty reserved (and shy) and I think this is my downfall!
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        Fri, March 10, 2006 - 4:56 PM
        I used to be shy and withdrawn when I was a little girl. I like to call myself reserved. I don't like to be imposed upon.
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Fri, March 10, 2006 - 4:57 PM
          I'm an Aries Sun and I have Scorpio moon in the 4th house and Scorpio IC
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Fri, March 10, 2006 - 6:40 PM
    Not shy at all - as shyness would imply some sort of anxiety, fear, or inability to interact with people, none of which apply to me. Rather, I see little point in interaction with most people, and generally need to get to know them for a while before I open up at all - and even then I do not open up totally.

    Extremely reserved would be a far more appropriate description.
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Fri, March 10, 2006 - 7:26 PM
    I'm pretty reserved and gaurded until some one gets to know me. When I was a kid I was terminally shy and had a serious phobia of public speaking. Thankfully, I've outgrown that. When I'm in a new crowd, or a new place, I am very gaurded and reserved. Some one else said that it's about gaining trust and I completely agree.
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Fri, March 10, 2006 - 7:28 PM
      I should add that most interractions seem shallow, so I avoid them. I'm not really a big fan of small talk, and niceties. Give me a topic I can sink my teeth into and then I'm interested.
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        Re: shy scorpios

        Fri, March 10, 2006 - 8:59 PM
        Anna,

        Same with me. I LOATHE small talk!!! I'm also guarded and reserved when meeting new ppl. I observe them as well. I've opened up right away to a few people but not many and it's because they started interesting conversations about deep topics. I've felt a connection to these very few people too. I also hate it when people ramble on and on. They make a point and just keep talking about their point and ramble endlessly about stupid stuff.. I hate to be imposed on too.
        • Re: shy scorpios

          Sat, March 11, 2006 - 5:12 AM
          I hate that useless rambling as well. I feel like there's just so much more important things to get to, right? And then there's the "fake" people who want to make small talk, chat w/me, they ALWAYS say hello and then hover waiting for more conversation but aren't really interested; that's makes my crazy as well.
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            Re: shy scorpios

            Wed, March 22, 2006 - 8:43 AM
            93!

            I used to think of myself as antisocial, with things like you describe here.. Always thought Scorpio's were normally very outgoing under every circumstance.. i recogn ise so much of what is written here :D

            YaY! I'm not a freak, everyone outside my sign is!

            *lives happily ever after*

            93! 93/93.

            Seb
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        Re: shy scorpios

        Fri, March 10, 2006 - 9:02 PM
        I absolutely LOATHE small talk and pointless conversations. I hate superficial gossip and garbage!
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Fri, March 10, 2006 - 9:04 PM
          JEESH! What's with this board? The board wouldn't show me the other post went through so I posted this more brief version of my message. DANG! Sometimes this board goes stupid!!! I don't get it!
          • Re: shy scorpios

            Fri, March 10, 2006 - 9:37 PM
            This happens to me too when I take a long time to finish posting. So before I hit "submit" I copy what I wrote, just to be safe. Then refresh the thread to see if it actually posted. It usually does.
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              Sat, March 11, 2006 - 10:07 AM
              Okay! Good plan. I think I'll follow that one just to make sure nothing F's up on me. Messageboards are great but they have their little kinks to the too.
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Fri, May 12, 2006 - 6:55 PM
          Its ok Laura :-) ..... maybe you just ned to go to another post. Thats all. No problem.

          Peace*
          Love

          ...and all that mushy stuff....


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    Re: shy scorpios

    Sat, March 11, 2006 - 11:27 AM
    I'm mostly reserved and observant, but can be shy at times if I feel I am the centre of attention.

    Red
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      Re: shy scorpios

      Sat, March 11, 2006 - 12:04 PM
      I absolutely HATE being the center of attention. I can't see how anyone could enjoy it. I like to be acknowledged, however, but not in the spotlight.
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Sat, March 11, 2006 - 1:32 PM
        As a scorp rising (appearances) i have to agree with Laura:

        "I can't see how anyone could enjoy it. I like to be acknowledged, however, but not in the spotlight."
        • Re: shy scorpios

          Sat, March 11, 2006 - 2:19 PM
          I feel the Scorpio energy: very strong fixed emotions, w/ a strong intuitive tendency.
          Ok course the center of attention is not something this likes. (Trust) I think is key word her. Being the center of attention feels a bit like a psychic molestation w/ all those energies imposed on you. The shy ness that has been discussed here seems to come down to Trust) and (Carefulness).
          I have stated my view of Scorpio energies as being like a wood stove. Warm and Sensual on the outside, and a (Raging Fire) within. When dealing w/ Scorpio energy have care.
          “Can you blame the fire if you stick your hand it and get burned”.
          Well the same applies for you’re self. Have care w/ the Fire w/in so as not to feel burned you’re self.
          Does this sound like what you all have been discussing??

          Dragon.
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            Re: shy scorpios

            Sat, March 11, 2006 - 9:15 PM
            Hi Dragon,

            Very well put indeed. I agree with your post here.
            • Re: shy scorpios

              Sat, March 11, 2006 - 9:27 PM
              Thank you I have been working on defining this one.
              Reading everyones posts and throwing in my own Scropio rising feelings.
              Looking at it from another perspective.
              There is also alot of Material on the Scorpio..
              All the Sex thinking and such.. Folks get a bit FIX ated on this one me included.
              I have stated before. Aqu & Gem, pos. Leo want all the atention but it's Scorpio that gets it whether ya like it or not..Accually probably the most dificult sign to deal w/ having.
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Sat, March 11, 2006 - 9:09 PM
          Thanks Steve, It's good to see others with similarities to my traits. I want to be acknowledged but not put on the spot.

          Laura
          • Re: shy scorpios

            Mon, March 13, 2006 - 6:39 AM
            i guess i am sterotypical. very outgoing, flamboyant, visibly obvious, lots of libido...my wife, however, nov 12th, is reserved, hates being in the spotlight, way toned-down.... interesting. our birthdays are only 3 days apart...
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              Re: shy scorpios

              Mon, March 13, 2006 - 10:44 AM
              Sometimes much of it has to do with what our life experiences are too. Could be you've had more pleasant experiences with crowds than your wife had. It's tough to say.
              • Re: shy scorpios

                Tue, March 14, 2006 - 6:25 AM
                good point, Laura... I moved a LOT through life and I learned at an early age to just jump into a new group and intentionally do something really embarassing so that everyone would remember me. That led to a lot of good results with new people. My wife never did that or really put herself forward much. She seems to have been well received in every situation I have witnessed, but maybe my presence helped to manifest that in some way. thanks for teh thought...
                • Re: shy scorpios

                  Tue, March 14, 2006 - 2:43 PM
                  thanks for this topic=i too am "shy"=but after reading these posts i feel i fall into the category of reserved and contemplative. i also do not like small talk and enjoy silence. i also enjoy time to myself. loud and boastful people turn me off.
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Fri, March 17, 2006 - 8:33 PM
    Isaac,

    This is so strange. I just looked at this thread for the first time today. I'm fascinated by your idea that your Scorpio stellium squaring your ascendant could reflect your shyness. I, too, have a Scorpio stellium (in the 9th house) squaring my Aquarius ascendant. Hmmm, maybe there is something to this. I've always been shy (in an extra sensitive Pisces way) and reserved. I do assert myself, but more in spurts, and I do have a lot of inner aggression but it is not apparent on the outside, and is kind of held in check. I come across, sometimes, as even timid (until people see the intensity inside, as the people who know me would never, ever, ever, ever call me timid). I always thought Saturn squaring all my Scorpio stuff (and opposing ascendant) reflected this more, causing hesitancy and limitation in self-presentation, but your insight is interesting. I don't quite know how to wrap my mind around the energy of Aquarius ascendant squaring Scorpio sun, etc., but maybe shyness?
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Sat, March 18, 2006 - 1:49 PM
      I have recently discovered that I am shy. It was a huge frustration to me. I can normally talk to men about anything while being shy but APPEAR to be outgoing.

      But recently, I was asking a guy what he thought was the most influential punk band, given the choices of Iggy Pop, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, and the Ramones....

      and I realized my face was slowly scarletting. I thought, "What's happening here?" It angered me that I should show so obviously that my feathers were ruffled. It's not very scorpion-like at all.
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Sat, March 18, 2006 - 2:22 PM
        {and I realized my face was slowly scarletting. I thought, "What's happening here?" It angered me that I should show so obviously that my feathers were ruffled. It's not very scorpion-like at all.}


        Actually it might be.
        It’s possible that he was getting a good sense of you. Could see “in” a bit. This could, and does upset the protective barrier the Scorpio often needs.
        I have experienced this many times. Deep in the Scorpio is a trust issue like no other.
        You not showing the belly till you have assessed that the care needed to view it will be taken.
        Does this fit that moment?
        • Re: shy scorpios

          Sat, March 18, 2006 - 2:50 PM
          yes. come to think of it, he might've been a scorpio as well. he had those eyes, y'know?

          the all-seeing ones that I have.

          JESUS! it really gets me when I'm not the only one doing the ruffling.
          • Re: shy scorpios

            Sat, March 18, 2006 - 3:35 PM
            I have Scorpio Rising and neptune. But I think this quality w/ me comes in w/ my Cancer-ness'
            As much as the Scorpio stuff.Of couse maybe this is not felt so much as a threat as when the scorpio energy comes into play.The Cancer stuff take the "care" seriously.

            Who says that Cancers are the only ones w/ hard shells to protect the soft inner.
            Scorpions are (exoskelet-al) also.
            Hey I made up another word.. Drives my mother crazy..Another Scorpio Sun..
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Thu, March 23, 2006 - 2:22 AM
    i am shy and reserved as well, however I am very open minded and not a lot of things bother or offend me......

    I could not start a conversation with a stranger if I needed to....especially women and men I find interesting, attractive and smart.....

    if that is a scorpio trait, i'd like to get it changed....being shy upsets me because it makes it real hard to make friends and get dates.....
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Tue, March 28, 2006 - 3:12 PM
      I'm shy and it always gets mistaken as arrogance. I'm was/still am way too sensitive about some things. As a kid, if I got yelled at by a relative to "calm down" or "stop acting up" I'd go into my room and cry - for hours! Totally unhealthy! I made myself stop crying for many, many years. It hurt. I used to get crying "headaches." Nowadays, I pass people on the street and they either give me a dirty look, snicker or worst of all, they spit when I pass them. Women clutch their handbags closer to their bodies when they see me. People walk around me as if to avoid me. I've been told I look like a pit bull. I was the last kid in my family - 4 girls between me and my brother (the oldest). I was told "you're stupid" a lot when I was young and that I did and liked "stupid" things. I was caught up in triangulation with my mother over my father's infidelity. His mistresses were always pointed out to me when I was really young. Highly inappropriate stuff. Ok, now it sounds like I'm just whining...........ugh.
      • Re: shy scorpios

        Tue, March 28, 2006 - 5:54 PM
        I wonder if there are any Scorpio sun with a fire moon sign and/or fire ascendant. Are you shy and reserved like the typical Scoprio or are you more outgoing and extroverted?
        • Re: shy scorpios

          Wed, March 29, 2006 - 1:48 AM
          Chri.. I am a Scorpio, Leo Moon, Leo Ascendant, at times I am reserved, to observe a new situation.people. get the feel of the "FLOW", and once I am comfortable with a new situation, person/people, I will start to let my "mane" down.
        • Re: shy scorpios with fiery moons

          Thu, March 30, 2006 - 4:57 PM
          christina,

          I'm a Scorpio sun (and mars, mercury, uranus). I have an Aries moon, Aquarius ascendant and, like I said below, I'm shy, reserved, and have always struggled with this--though when you get to know me well I'm not shy at all. I'm kind of an introverted extrovert. I don't think Aries or Scorpio or Aquarius are generally "supposed" to be shy, but here I am.
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          Re: shy scorpios

          Mon, April 3, 2006 - 7:57 AM
          I'm not shy. I just hate to waste energy on useless things. Talking just to hear my own voice is senseless to me. Though people tend to assume that my silence means I'm shy. People and their little labels.
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Tue, April 4, 2006 - 7:07 PM
    I am an intrinsically shy Scorpio who has learned how to be outgoing in order to do my work and function in the world. It's all on the surface, though. It's still fairly impossible for me to truly connect with someone until I watch them carefully over time and distance.

    Trust issues? Ohhhh yeah.
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      Re: shy scorpios

      Wed, April 5, 2006 - 5:41 PM
      i'm realy shy, it's still hard for me to look into ppl's eyes, i must be realy good at hiding it cuz no one thinks i'm shy, only the special ones.
      • the eyes...

        Tue, April 25, 2006 - 6:10 PM
        the eyes are the window to the soul.
        so really, i'm afraid to look too deeply
        as i might see the truth behind their actions.

        i often hide behind my glasses.
        other times, i like to find out what i can see.
        so is it really shyness when you can't look into
        someone's eyes? i tend to think not.
    • Re: shy scorpios

      Thu, April 27, 2006 - 12:21 AM
      Brody, "Trust Issues? Oh Yeah" I have been burnt by so many people that I extended my Heart and Love and Trust to, YEA,, I have a few Issues too,,, trying to understand what I AM doing wrong, and how to set it all correct. Do I start with myself, YES, but where is the root cause?

      CHAZ, any help here would be greatly appreciated!!
  • Re: shy scorpios

    Thu, May 4, 2006 - 11:59 PM
    Scorpios are introverted and empathic. Being empathic makes it hard to be around lots of people. Not shy really...
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      Re: shy scorpios

      Wed, May 10, 2006 - 11:33 PM
      wow, yes. I can relate to this sensitivity, empathy as well as difficulty or awkwardness sometimes crossing the chasm between not knowing someone well though wanting to as the "small talk' is not natural or particulary interesting to me to engage in. What does interest me and am usually inspired to talk about are sometimes rather personal, or universal feelings, perceptions, etc that im aware some people find to direct or sensitive to want to talk about right away or at all. But its real for me, and if someone interests me - i really want to open up and crawl right inside each others hearts,minds & souls. Why wait?

      Theres no guarantee well have another opportunity again anyway. Yet at the same time i find my sensitivity and a tendency to reserved & sometimes selfprotective introversion allows such opportunities to pass by when i wish i had at least initiated more directly honest communication and connection invitation to someone. Then part of me is concerned, if its someone i have a class with, or work with, etc if theyre not interested or misinterperet , that maybe theyll feel awkward being upfront honest. Though thats should not be too much of a concern, provided everyone is totally honest and clear with each other, and we respect each others feelings.

      Sometimes we discover our interest in certain people is mutual and wonderfully enriching to both involved. That makes the extension of our sensitive selves all the more worthwhile.
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        Re: shy scorpios

        Thu, May 11, 2006 - 7:42 AM
        Aaron and et all., it's always a risk to reach out and then reach in to others...you said it well when you said something to the affect of you want to crawl inside someone and see them...kind of like from the inside out.
        I don't find most people want that and God knows I don't want it with everyone..ha ha...there are some people I meet that if i could stick a 2 x4 btw. us I would...it's too invasive...but honestly if I find that person interesting to me...there is no holding back...I will just go for it and start digging in.
        I think some of the most interesting questions asked are the ones most of us only think of asking or feel we have to wait to ask.
        Life is too bloody short damn it...we could get hit by a bus tomorrow...why not ask today or tonight?
        What does it all come down to?
        Boundaries? Perhaps..perhaps we are all just keeping our healthy boundaries in place.
        Fear? Yes maybe we are afraid and with good reason to go "there" bc we have all been hurt b4 but isn't it worth the risk?
        Commitment? If we DO go there...and by there I mean even just cerebrally...what is that person going to expect from me? What in turn am I going to feel I need to give back after we went to such depths? Can I sustain that depth? Or do I retreat back and become the very person that I accuse others of being...remote, withdrawn, shut down?
        Anyway....random thoughts here...sometimes I wonder if I should not just put out an advertisement for Scorpios only or Leos - they seem to be the only ones that are not afraid to travel with me to the emotional depths...and okay ocassionally Sags....but they can travel philosophically but not so sure deeply.
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          Thu, May 11, 2006 - 8:37 AM
          'Can I sustain that depth? Or do I retreat back and become the very person that I accuse others of being...remote, withdrawn, shut down? '

          ouch... that's pointed.
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    Stalker (shy?) Scorpios...

    Thu, May 11, 2006 - 8:27 AM
    Im a libra w/ scorpio rising and about 6 planets in scorpio so I have a knack for figuring out most scorpios. However theres a neighbor whos a scorpio (you can tell by license plate tags) who semi stalks me. I live w/ my bf and yet that doesnt stop him from sitting on the corner of our patio watching our tv, or eavesdropping on my phones conversations when Im outside (we live in a apt building), shooting on of those red lasers in the living room, parking his truck infront of the bedroom window and watching me/us, and on and on. When we rarely cross each others path, he seems very hesitant. And whats REALLY odd is as far as I know he's straight. Im sure he's figured out Im gay. If he wasn't so damn goodlooking I'd probably call the police but part of me is flattered by this strange attention. So I ask the full fledged Scorpios out there what they make of this whole thing?
    • Re: Stalker (shy?) Scorpios...

      Thu, May 11, 2006 - 11:47 AM
      I had a friend this sort of thing was happening to & one early morning the stalker just snapped and started breaking windows all over her house, throwing boulders through the windows, and I think he even ended up on the roof trying to get into a second story bedroom.

      Your neighbor isn't 'right'; he sounds dangerous to me. Like some straight guy with tendencies he doesn't know how to come to terms with. He could kill you and your partner, happens all the time. Report him, if not to the cops, then to somebody. If you can't talk to him directly, you have to tell at least the apartment manager whats going on. That's invasive behavior and it only gets more aggressive from here.

      Most of what you describe could almost be coincidental, but if he's regularly shining a laser light into your apartment, that's like projecting himself in there, and that is invasive - could even be a laser sight on a pistol, do you know what the source is? Particularly if he's doing this kind of stuff but you can't even have a conversation with him, that's not just shy, that strikes me as aberrant antisocial behavior.

      Freaky stuff, my friend. Protect yourself. A crazy Scorpio is just scary. I scare myself sometimes.


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        Thu, May 11, 2006 - 12:15 PM
        without any more details, i second brady's concerns. bad vibes . . . pay attention and confront the situation in some manner. short of reporting, discuss the matter with other neighbors and recruit someone to accompany you to his door and call him out on it. i wouldn't recommend proceeding on your own --make him aware that others are aware. otherwise, call the cops.
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      Fri, May 12, 2006 - 11:29 PM
      Yeah, good looking package doesnt say anything for whats inside the package wanting to get out?!
      From what you describe Id add another voice of concern to other members suggestions in here, about keeping your guard up. Or putting it up.
      I would say that its always worth keeping an open mind, as sometimes people can do things which from the outside seem weird and concerning but MAY be something else entirely benign. Then again, it may just be what it seems. Reminds me of that saying ( I think winston chuchill or teddy roosevelt - someone, now me ) "walk softly but carry a big stick". I interpret this as being peaceful in our own conduct, feelings & thoughts, but not stupid. Respecting life also means respecting ourselves and not letting others abuse the life that we are.
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        Fri, May 12, 2006 - 11:39 PM
        Respecting life also means respecting ourselves and not letting others abuse the life that we are.

        - And sometimes this entails listening and acting on intuitiions to take proactive measures before the reasons for doing so have already occured. At the same time, not overreacting. Wise discernment comes in handy here, eh.?
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      Sat, May 13, 2006 - 12:04 AM
      Rob,

      How frightening! I'm thinking you should call the cops if this continues. You just never know. Best to be safe rather than sorry. Hope all works out for the best for you.
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        Sat, May 13, 2006 - 12:06 AM
        On second thought Rob, what Paul suggested is a good idea. I don't know how you feel about owning a gun. It seems like such a controversial subject, but it could save your life in the long run.
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          Re: Stalker (shy?) Scorpios...

          Mon, May 15, 2006 - 10:10 AM
          Ya'll are great, thanx for the advice. I dont know about calling the police. This might tap into the guys (his name is James) dark side and I get the feeling I shouldnt react hastly. The red laser is a keychain thing, he uses it to play with his dog Howie. I had another situation happen a few nights ago. I told you he parks his truck across the parking lot facing our bedroom window. Around 1 in the morning im laying on the floor beside the bed watching tv, the bf is asleep. I get up and get a drink and I get the feeling of being watched. I ignored it as usual, got the drink and came back in the bed room. Right as I sat down, the headlights from his truck came on and blasted through the window. I froze and after a couple minetes he left. It was like something out of a movie.

          We have several shot guns and my bf is a ex-marine, so I feel pretty safe. As was suggested earlier, ALL of these things could be major coincedences. When his girlfriend was living with him (she moved out) there was alot of weirdness going on. I talked to her once for about 30 minetes, she was nice, friendly, etc. As I was talking to her, I got the feeling he was upstairs listening. Afterwards she wouldnt pay me the time of day. A friend suggested he didnt like her talking to me. One morning the bf and I were going at it (this was about 5 am) and we were moderatly loud (mainly because I didnt think anyone else was awake) and not 5 minetes afterwards I could hear THEM going at it. LOUD! As if to prove a point.

          He's also a drinker. Heavy drinker. Im thinking of maybe playing his game. I have experience with crazy people and maybe thats what he wants. Maybe this is his way of flirting.
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            Mon, May 15, 2006 - 10:52 AM
            Look I hate to say this bc in and of itself it reeks of dysfunction but Rob, I think he is not even gay or straight he's F**cked up. I don't doubt that he is attracted to you and maybe if he had years of therapy he would be with a guy....and even then if had more years of therapy he would learn to be nice to the guy (bc he sounds controlling and abusive regardless of what sexual orientation his partner is) he's the Alpha.
            He reminds me of (in a worse way) that character from AMERICAN BEAUTY....remember, I love that actor by the way but I digress.....the one that was so militant, the father of the really hot young male character (who is now on that Prison show) anyway, in the end, you think "Okay this guy is just uptight, raised dysfunctionally and taking it out on his son..." but in the end man, he walks up to Kevin Spacey's character and for a split second you feel so empathetic and even hopeful for him you know?
            You think..."Awwww...he's not that bad a guy"
            And Kevin Spacey's character is sort of clueless, wrapped up in his own mid life crisis, oblivious to the repressed sexual lust on the part of Chris Cooper's character (yeah that' s his name).
            And then, like a timebomb waiting to go off, Cooper's character cracks and he kills Spacey's character.
            Okay I am scorpio and I am bit paranoid...but I am just saying be careful.

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