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Okay, right now I'm super confused about the scorpio male that is in my life.
He is very reserved and picky. If he doesn't like you, he will spend every day alone instead of being around people he doesn't like. He has few people he considers close friends. So for the last month or so he and I have been hanging out a lot. We make out, cuddle, hold hands, etc.. but no sex. He is very sweet - he strokes my hair and stares at me and is very intense, which I like. I can tell he's very sensitive and guarded.
Recently he told me he's starting stuff up again with one of his old friends. I told him it wasn't right that he led me on for a month, but that being his friend was important to me because I'd never met someone that I clicked so well with before. But then a few days after that I find out that he changed his mind about his old friend and is instead starting anew with his ex-girlfriend of two years.
His relationship with her was built on drug use and codependence. He admitted to me several times before that dating her was kind of a mistake and that he couldn't be in a relationship with her. All of his friends dislike her and berate him every time he goes back to her. He told me that he was definitely broken up with her for good this time.
But now he's running back to her and I don't know why. My suspicion is that he's never opened up to anyone but her and his need to be open with someone overpowers is own common sense. But it's just frustrating to see him bouncing back and forth like this and I was wondering if there were any astrological insights into his behavior, so that maybe I could be more understanding of his position. I'm not sure how he could abruptly abandon all feelings for me.
Sun, Mercury, Venus, Pluto - Scorpio
Moon - Virgo
Mars - Gemini
Jupiter - Leo
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune - Capricorn
He is very reserved and picky. If he doesn't like you, he will spend every day alone instead of being around people he doesn't like. He has few people he considers close friends. So for the last month or so he and I have been hanging out a lot. We make out, cuddle, hold hands, etc.. but no sex. He is very sweet - he strokes my hair and stares at me and is very intense, which I like. I can tell he's very sensitive and guarded.
Recently he told me he's starting stuff up again with one of his old friends. I told him it wasn't right that he led me on for a month, but that being his friend was important to me because I'd never met someone that I clicked so well with before. But then a few days after that I find out that he changed his mind about his old friend and is instead starting anew with his ex-girlfriend of two years.
His relationship with her was built on drug use and codependence. He admitted to me several times before that dating her was kind of a mistake and that he couldn't be in a relationship with her. All of his friends dislike her and berate him every time he goes back to her. He told me that he was definitely broken up with her for good this time.
But now he's running back to her and I don't know why. My suspicion is that he's never opened up to anyone but her and his need to be open with someone overpowers is own common sense. But it's just frustrating to see him bouncing back and forth like this and I was wondering if there were any astrological insights into his behavior, so that maybe I could be more understanding of his position. I'm not sure how he could abruptly abandon all feelings for me.
Sun, Mercury, Venus, Pluto - Scorpio
Moon - Virgo
Mars - Gemini
Jupiter - Leo
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune - Capricorn
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Tue, July 15, 2008 - 7:28 PMyou didn't mention his age - I was this same way up until the age of 37 (ie: last year) - I do think that Scorps, while always
seeking out people to "save" and "transform" can often temper that need as they (we) get older.
Of course, everyone is different. Though the person you've described is, indeed, very Scorpionic.
My question to you is 1) what are you trying to achieve in your inquiry? Do you want to "save" him from
self destructive behviour? Is it even self destructive or is that merely your perception? Are your romantic
intentions overruling the very fact that people will do what they do until they decide not to do it anymore?
I can tell you one thing - Scorpios do NOT like to be dominated..understood and spoken to with candor
and integrity but not put under a microscope, poked and then told what is best for them....that will only
leave you with a very angry (and apt to sting) Scorpio.
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 1:01 AMI dont think it has anything to do with you. I think that he has never gotten over his ex. I think it is lucky for you that you haven't had sex yet.
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 1:07 AM"If he doesn't like you, he will spend every day alone instead of being around people he doesn't like. He has few people he considers close friends. " wow he sounds like me
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 12:48 PMSounds like you're plenty understanding already. What else would you do? he's gonna do what he wants to do. It does sound like he never got over the ex & I agree with what some one else said about it being good that you hadn't had sex.
Can you still be a friend and let him do his thing without getting too frustrated and trying to navigate him?
I have a male scorp friend and he's notorious for falling for the girl that's ill-suited to him, the one that's f'd up in numerous ways. But, he keeps doing it. And it's not just one girl; if he actualyl gets over one, then he soon enough find another. It's hard to watch. Painfull even because he's such a sensitive man. But those are his choices. All I can do is not judge him and be a friend.
BTW..."he doesn't like you, he will spend every day alone instead of being around people he doesn't like. He has few people he considers close friends." - Totally me! -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, July 16, 2008 - 8:42 PMHe is definitely someone I know I will be friends with for a very very long time. That's why I wasn't so mad when he suddenly jumped back to his ex. I understand why he's doing it, I guess. He is so buried in himself emotionally and doesn't feel like he can be emotional with anyone. And I know his ex has told me he's said she's the only one he can cry in front of, etc. I feel like when he's not with her, he feels at a loss and runs back to that emotional safety.
I think I can continue to be his friend as long as he doesn't get too absorbed in his girlfriend and forget to be a good friend. As a leo, naturally, loyalty is very very important to me. I cannot stand being brushed aside.
I will be there for him through all of this, but it's hard to see him do it. But I understand that I've got to let him run his course and not dictate. -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Thu, July 17, 2008 - 5:53 PMI wish my ex leo boyfriend could have been more understanding like
you are. :( -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 5:53 AMCome on, Scorpios are reliable, Leos are not. I know it, I used to be one. -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:22 AMi consider myself to be reliable and i'm a leo. i'm more loyal than most people, at least. -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 9:34 PMLeos are loyal, yes. Enough to put up with Serpents' heartless, self-destructive follies... My experience, being the serpent, of course. The Lions stay strong. Although sometimes they can't understand the intensity and emotional complexities... And the fights can be tedious (unless a Leo has water influences)...
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the situation with wolfie's scorpio and his ex sounds familiar to me though.
sometimes...... you just meet someone whom you just can't permanently banish from your life. there is a haunting quality in the connection. like life isn't worth living anymore if they're gone. never mind the quarrels. and even though you find someone better... you just can't be satisfied.
astrologers would call it a "karmic relationship."
the moon, saturn, pluto, north node, chiron....
not to mention the vertex.
my other source would say either of this about the ex:
1. she employs fetishes
2. she represents the woman inside him (anima, or "Demonic" element)
from what you've said, seeing that he opens up to her more than anybody.... #2 might sound right...... -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, August 13, 2008 - 4:15 AM"We make out, cuddle, hold hands, etc.. but no sex. He is very sweet - he strokes my hair and stares at me and is very intense, which I like. I can tell he's very sensitive and guarded."
Ok, maybe it's just me, but... is it possible this isn't about his sign, but his orientation? That is absolutely something an 'in the closet and in denial about it' man does. They marry, even, to give the appearance of a normal life, are very affectionate, but sex is or is almost non-existent. If he "opened up" to her, how does the first friend situation work in there, except that he's looking for something, can't find it and is floundering around for it.
His being a Scorpio may not factor in at all. I know that's blasphemy, but still... even Scorpios can get confused or conflicted and not all are self-aware. -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, August 13, 2008 - 7:02 AMMars in gemini --could be an orientation issue, or simple indecisiveness.
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Wed, August 13, 2008 - 8:25 AMhe didn't have sex because he wanted someone else. He figured as long as there was no sex he wasn't doing much harm. You fell for a selfish bastard.
How can you say he is sweet when he led you on and left you high and dry for a crack whore. -
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Sun, August 24, 2008 - 8:51 AM@Stevo,Mars in gemini does not mean that .
@Sugar,He is not selfish,if he is honest .
@Author,
I am Scorpio by Sun and Mercury only,still feeling him well ...I also do not have many close friends,as the friendship for me
si too sacred and must be ,remember ,a true friendship must be felt by Heart for the Scorp,
I myself have mainly Scorp Sun or Scorp some other planets friends,as only they have the qualities that will help me in transformations which I need (transformation) in every single relationship I have in my life.
If I feel the person cannot give me anything ,is not strong enough,I do not come even close to him ..
It is all about the Two`s Chemistry inbetween,
so do not worry,if he does not want with you,
there will be someone better for you who will want with you,
and let him go to his ex,probably he got there hat he wants,
he gets there his transformation which he intensely needs in relationships like anything ..
I appreciate him for being honest .
Let him go .
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Re: frustrated by scorpio behavior
Thu, August 14, 2008 - 4:24 PMGet out the whip and crack it.. literally ;)
